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by James
Dignan and Jan Oskar Engene
Aktiebolaget Svenska Ostasiatiska Kompaniet
Houseflag: White, with 3 Gold Crowns on Blue Disc and ASOK in Blue.
Jarig Bakker, 18 October 2004
by Phil
Nelson
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963
[ssy63].
http://w1.435.telia.com/~u43505985/SHIPP1.HTML
has this one too, but with a more centered S (and uneven swallow-tails?).
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-22
I experienced the time when the ships of Svea came and went in the harbour
of Stockholm. I have no memory of Svea having a small Swedish flag in the
house flag. The S was on the other hand bolder than in the image.
Richard Roosvall, May 2001 [translated from Swedish]
Taking a look at Svea in Brown's Flags and Funnels, 1978, which is a few
years later than the source in my original image there are a few
differences.The Swedish flag appears more along the lines of a Scandinavian
cross as anticipated by Ole back at the time of the original posting.
Additionally, the 'S' in the image is more san serif v. the serif letter in
the [ssy63] source.
Phil Nelson, 1 June 2001
See: Eman. Högberg
contributed by Neale
Rosanoski
Probably the best source available is the Josef Nüsse table flag showing a
very small canton with the cross fesspoint to the hoist ie Scandanavian style
and with a plain letter. As photos definitely show the "S" on the
funnel was plain I would be surprised if that on the flag differed. The
company originated 1886 as Stockholms Rederi A/B or Stockholms Ĺngfartygs
Rederi A/B (sources differ) with the original flag being a dark blue with an
oval picture, within an ornate gold frame, of the upper portion of a red
coated man with a golden crown against a light blue background with the name
and flag changed by 1912.
Neale Rosanoski, 5 August 2003
by Phil Nelson
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963
[ssy63].
contributed by Neale
Rosanoski
Talbot-Booth 1942 and 1994 shows a green flag with
what resembles a yellow fan like shell and in the field corners the respective
yellow letters "ABBT". The connection with this flag is a mystery to
me and by 1949 Talbot-Booth is showing the version noted by FOTW. After WW2 most
of their shipping was in the name of Salénrederierna A/B with Salén appearing
to later have adopted the name of Salénrederierna which became Saléninvest A/B
in 1981. In the mid 1980s they filed for bankruptcy and despite a reorganization
it appears this was their fate.
Neale Rosanoski, 5 August 2003
Swedish Lloyd; London-Gothenburg Service;
Houseflag: White, with Blue Maltese Cross
Jarig Bakker, 15 October 2003
From The National Maritime Museum:
The house flag of Svenska Lloyd Rederi A/B, Gothenburg. A rectangular white flag with a blue Maltese cross in the centre. The flag is made of cotton fabric and is machine sewn. A rope and clip is attached. The house flag was originally yellow with a blue saltire. The present design was substituted at the time of the First World War because of the resemblance between the old design and the Russian naval ensign.
(Loughran and Brown show similar images - definitely no Maltese crosses).
The yellow houseflag with a blue saltire, used till the First World War,
after Loughran, 1979.
Jarig Bakker, 1 September 2004
by Jarig BakkerGothenburg - white burgee bordered blue top and
bottom; blue disk, yellow 5-pointed star.
Jarig Bakker, 19 January 2005
Swedish Orient Line (Sweden) - White with a blue disc centered, charged
with the three crowns of Sweden. I've got a question on this. These three crowns have the dignity of a state symbol in
Sweden. Although, some other houseflags "borrow" colours and/or flag
designs from their home-countries, none of them has this strong connection to
the state symbols. Doesn't it arise some discussion in Sweden to see the three
crowns on a private flag?
Jorge Candeias, 21 March 1999
Swedish Orient Line (SOL) was founded in 1911 and belonged to Ĺngfartygs AB Tirfing, later the Broström group. During the years 1984-1991 it belonged to the Transatlantic group. SOL is situated in Gothenburg. It has shipping lines mainly between the Baltic Sea and the Mediterranean.
According to information on the homepage, at http://www.sollines.se/, many of the
services are now operated in the name SolNiver Lines, a joint venture with
Scan Orient Shipping Co. Ltd. which is a subsidiary of the Greek shipping
company Niver Lines. SOL holds 60 % of the shares in SolNiver Lines. However,
I did not find any information about any house flag for SolNiver Lines.
Elias Granqvist, 17 March 2001
Formed as Svenska Levant Linien, or Sverige-Levanten A/B (sources vary)
becoming Swedish Orient Line in 1927 (company website) changing from this in
1995 to B&N Svenska Orient Linien A/B until 1997 when Swedish Orient Line
A/B was adopted (Lloyds). According to Brown 1926 they used a Broström flag
of 4 blue and 3 red horizontal bands with a white "O" wholly overall
the 3rd to 5th bands whereas post WW2 sources show it using the Broström flag
proper with the combined white letters "AB". Subsequently they
appear to have inherited the flag of A/B Svenska Amerika Linien which had also
become part of the Broström group with the flag appearing on their website
but with the blue of the circle being in line with the national colours.
Neale Rosanoski, 5 August 2003
by Phil
Nelson
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963
[ssy63].
This is a case of déjŕ vu. Three years or so ago someone had seen the P&O flag in Atlanta, and wondered what it was.
I mentioned having seen it in the Sound (the water between Copenhagen and Malmö). This was what I had seen.
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-22
This flag is shown by the US Navy 1961 as also for A/S D/S Öresund, the
Danish company based Copenhagen with Talbot-Booth 1942 also confirming use by
the latter. They managed some of each others vessels at times and appear to be
associates with the colours possibly symbolizing Sweden and Denmark. The
latter was absorbed into Scandlines A/S in
1997 by which time Svenska Rederi A/B Öresund were managers only for a D/S
A/S Öresund vessel. It is of course not the same as the P&O flag which
has the same colours but in a different order.
Neale Rosanoski, 5 August 2003